Lets throw the gang of Tory, but anonymous, blog parasites (one pictured left) who lurk on my open comments facility a little more red meat !
In the Independent today they report the following from an opinion poll they commissioned,
'Gordon Brown is seen as the "best in a crisis" of the two main party leaders by 43 per cent of people, with 33 per cent opting for David Cameron. Mr Brown (43 per cent) is more trusted on the economy, while 33 per cent trust Mr Cameron most.'
28 comments:
Just goes to show, opinion polls are daft. If Gordon called an election tomorrow Labour would lose heavily. If he thought he'd win he would.
It also proves you can fool most of the people some of the time. Gordon has got people frightened about jobs, homes and the future.
Is this what you had in mind Geoff?
Without curious Tories this blog would die. Would you rather everyone agreed with you?
Well excuse me for being a parasite but I am obviously deluded to think that a blog is for putting forward opinions and ideas. I didn't appreciate that Cllr Geoff Lumley's blog is only to be used to boost his ego and opinions.
Get over it, most people would love to see Labour kicked out right now. Polls and statistics can and are manipulated. All political parties do it but this Labour government have turned it into an art form.
The British economy is based on a bed of shifting sands. Would it be so terrible if the system collapsed and this country, as many others, would then be in a position to bring some honesty and common sense into its governance and economy. There would be a lot of pain, hopefully the worst of it felt by the money men and the politicians who they bankroll.
Unfortunately the corruption within and the brainwashing by the political class will make this unlikely and Joe Public will pay the biggest price in the end.
re: Anonymous 11:45pm
I think a trip to dictionary corner is in order. A parasite feeds off a host which seems exactly what you, me and others are doing. As it is Geoff Lumley's personal blog who's opinions were you expecting? Most people have always wanted every government kicked out, the last majority government was just after the war I think?
I think it is generous of Geoff to allow us to contribute with very little censorship. Well done Geoff keep up the good work
Come on Guys, why are you fighting like this. Surely Labour and Tories must band together to fight the useless and duplicitous Lib Dems and keep them out of power, both as MP and the Council. I suspect we will have a hung council next time around with only the good councillors left from the lot. You must work together for the good of the Island. Dont forget Lib Dems only lie when they open their mouths!!
I heard EU commissioner Peter Mandelson this morning talking about how they (the EU) must introduce new legislation to stop bank loan and mortgage fraud. You couldn't make it up. Remind me, why did old Mandy 'resign' from Tony's government? The first time I mean, not the second.
Having him running the EU is like putting Geoff Archer in charge of the truth commission!
If Geoff Lumley doesn't want honest opinions then he should remove the facility for making comments. Easy isn't it?
All I want is for people to preferably be open about who they are! Its very difficult to compose replies to ten different 'anonymous' contributers. Even nom de plumes would be better than that, eg. 'hang em and flog em', 'Labour hater', 'irrational', etc. You can say all you want - barring the entirely offensive - as in my view Tories are best at hanging themselves. I know that my many readers who do not rant at me are seeing Tories for what they are really like.......Keep it up !
Geoof, your view of the Tories is unbelievable! It's your lot who are tearing themselves apart day after day, it's they who've got us into this financial mess, it's they who failed to regulate lending it's they who spent the bullions and bullions, it's your leader who claimed he'd ended 'boom and bust.' I could go on but you're too blinkered to see.
nb I'm a Liberal
I don't understand why you can't see the truth Cllr Lumley. Personally I think that your posts are equally as 'ranty' as the anonymous postings.
I don't know who will get us out of the hole that Labour have dug but it doesn't appear that any of the parties have the guts to do what is necessary.
What do you suggest?
Signed: Despairing Realist.
Why can't we all agree that power corrupts equally? Tory or Socialist. The shame of 11 years of Labour is the rich did get richer and the poor stayed poor. Tony and Gordie did very little for working people except get them into a load more debt. No-one thought the house boom would end, Labour had a duty to warn the over optimistic that bust usually follows boom. I think Gordon believed his own bull5hit.
Dear Despairing Realist,
Well that's start. With a little encouragement I may even get you out as yourself !
Firstly at least I put my name on my 'rants'. I am increasingly the Victor Meldrew of the IW political scene, but sadly I can believe the incompetence and shallowness of Conservatism - national and local.
Further I'm afraid that ideas are about disagreements. Quoting 'the truth' at me is just a little too evangelical. 'One man's truth is another man's lie', and all that.
I am a democratic socialist, you are a 'Liberal'. I fundamentally disagree with Liberal politics of naked opportunism and total lack of realism. There is no way I am going to debate that here.
What do I suggest to address the economic downturn? Well we could start with hoping they elect Obama in the US first instead of another Republican who will continue to lead the world economy into recession. Then stick with someone who understands the world economy - Gordon Brown - and not someone who has no experience of international capital at all.
In a year's time everything economic will be a lot better. Under a Labour government.I am sure of that.
Que sera sera.
There's nothing I can do about it anyway. So it's nose to the grindstone, keep paying the taxes and hope that there's enough left for the basics of life after that.
That's the only real choice open to many working people. Oh and forget about retiring unless you work in the public sector.
Despairing Realist.
'No experience of international capital' Blimey Geoff that's a bit naive? Call me Dave and his pals are the city! They know more about capital than your dour Scot will ever know. If it's really 'prudence' we need, Gordon failed. The Tories are always the city boys with the insider info. Vot blue, sort the mess out with lower spending.
Let's maybe agree on one thing. Have you ever known so many people so worried and unhappy?
The government have to take some responsibility for that surely?
re: anonymous 5:28pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely it's the "City Boys" who have caused the mess! Why would I want them to sort it out?
..Island Guy
Oh for goodness' sake; have you ever known so many people so worried and unhappy, one anonymous asks. Well yes, actually. All you need is to be as old as I am, or alternatively to have a memory. I can recall people worried to death about negative equity; about the threat or reality of unemployment; about problems with their rent, or rates (or Poll Tax); about the closure of hospitals ... I can remember the years of artificial boom, and that economic freak called Norman (Lamont). Some of you seem to think that history started in 1997.
Negative Equity. It's back!
Problems with rent and rates, that's back too. Most people are worried about fuel bills, petrol and losing their job or earning far less than they have.
My point was that Brown and Darling have got us where we are, looking back fifteen years is pretty weak. The last Tory Chancellor was Ken Clarke and he left the country in great shape everyone agrees. You're right, the boom didn't start in 1997 it had been going for three or four years.
The bust started about 18 months ago.
Mandelson back, unbelievable. What will he be, Minister for mortgages? Just what we need in our time of mortgage crisis, Britain's best known mortgage applicant.
Come on Geoff, this IS proof Labour have lost it?
With Mandy in charge of mortgages maybe Gordon will invite Geoff Archer to join his government of all the talents?
I bet Labour Mp's are delighted that Mandy has been recalled from Brussels. It says a lot about how much talent Gordy thinks he has on the Labour benches.
I know negative equity is back. My point was that this is nothing new and people have been in despair before under various governments. Without wishing to get all political on everyone, I'm afraid that's the nature of capitalism. New Labour's mistake was to think (or pretend) that you can ever "cure" the "free market" of its essential characteristics.
Every now and then, it runs into crisis, and politicians ought to be honest about it. It's out of their control - and if it weren't, it wouldn't be "free" in the first place.
As for Mandy - I don't care about his personal issues, only about his competence, and he's been a good minister in the past. However, if he takes us all back to Blairism, the deceit, the media manipulation, the outright lies, the intellectual vacuum that accompanied what ought to have been a great project for government (but got itself stuck fast) then even if he does restore the government's popularity, it will not be a govt worth having, and will disappear down the sink just as surely in the course of time.
The Prince of Darkness is a fair decription of old Mandy.
Someone said yesterday that with Mandy on board they'll see light at the end of the tunnel. Yep said a pundit, it'll be the light on the oncoming train that'll run new Labour over!
Competent Minister? Hmmm, he wasn't much good at filling in mortgage forms or remembering passport applications for Labour donors. Many Labourites are furious, it'll still end in tears is my prediction.
I agree with Robert Jones - there have been previous grim times. My teenage diary from 1974 reminds me that we were being advised by a government minister to scrub our teeth with the lights out to save on power. That was the 3-day week under Ted Heath when a state of emergency was declared. I'd like to say we were poor but happy, but actually my family was pretty miserable.
Labour people are going barmy. My evidence? Mandy and mow Blunkett tipped for a return ( to force through id cards perhaps) and Cherie claiming that 'HER TONY IS UP THERE WITH CHURCHILL' on Britain's list of great PM's. Pass the sick bag please...
With pleasure, providing that you promise to put in over your head and take a deep breath...better dead than red, right?
anonymous at 11.28 pm. What a nasty bunch some of you Labour lot are.
The problem is that lefties are by nature controlling and intolerant towards anyone who disagrees with them.
Therefore reasoned debate is very often out of the question. It does not bode well for the future of this country, and indeed Europe, if they continue on the present path. God help today's youngsters (and I am free to believe in God still, at least for the time being).
Anonymous at 1.50am. I don't disagree with you, as an old leftie who actually enjoys being argued with, but maybe reasoned debate is not best encouraged by telling Labour people they're "going barmy"? If Cherie Blair really has claimed that Tone is up there with Churchill, however, "barmy" would be quite a good word for her; but not necessarily for the whole tribe which is Labour. And spouses often say admiring things about their partners; they're usually wrong. In this case, Churchill surmounted crisis. Blair created one, and then fumbled it.
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